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Site Update: More Like This - Beta

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 6:54 PM

In our continuous effort to improve the deviantART experience, we're publishing weekly Site Updates to keep members informed and to gather feedback. Below is a list of recent changes to the site, bug fixes, and feedback that was brought up by members in the last Site Update.

More Like This BETA

DeviantART is proud to announce two major improvements to the way you browse and discover artwork on the site. These feature are currently only available to Beta Testers. More Like This is deviantART’s newest content discovery tool – enabling you to find similar, relevant deviations, artists, and collections to a chosen deviation. In addition to More Like This, we've made a number of improvements to browsing on deviantART, including an updated navigation, a "full view" mode, and endless scrolling.

Try these new features by upgrading to a Premium Membership and becoming a Beta Tester.

Change Log

  • New APIs have been releasedAdded by $ZombieCoder
  • The "Notify me upon resolution" checkbox has been removed from the Report Deviation modal because we found that it promoted negativity within the community and led to harassment. Fixed by $DEVlANT
  • The Group "Edit Page" functionality was not functioning properly. Widget descriptions, icons and install buttons went missing. Fixed by $DEVlANT
  • Some icons on deviation pages were displaying out-of-date versions under some conditions. Fixed by $ZombieCoder
  • Group creation for small number of groups was delayed. Fixed by $DEVlANT
  • Deactivated and banned users could report through the moderation system. Fixed by $DEVlANT
  • The Twitter emoticon was updated. Fixed by $drommk
  • The View & Choose Badge link displayed over the Collections bar when opened on some profile pages. Fixed by $shadowhand
  • FAQ text on group creation pages was not properly formatted. Fixed by $DEVlANT
  • The "go to" button in notes was not functional. Fixed by $DEVlANT
  • There was an issue in Llama trade offer matching. Fixed by $drommk
  • Users could encounter errors while saving due to certain conditions. Fixed by $mudimba
  • "Watch Redraw" button did not show in under certain situations. Fixed by $Nodren
  • The maximum size of brushes has been made bigger. Fixed by $mudimba

  • The switcher allowing the owner of a published deviation to view comments that were left while it was in wasn't working. Fixed by $kouiskas
  • The submission agreement wouldn't display to new users in some contexts. Fixed by $samshull
  • Editing a deviation published from would break the site header. Fixed by $adahacker
  • Some editing options were broken. Fixed by $kouiskas
  • Some special characters, such as German umlauts, wouldn't be displayed properly in comments. Fixed by $kouiskas Writer

  • Writer immediately saved your entry when you opened it for editing. Fixed by $Alisey
  • Double spacing after a URL in journals would eat whatever word followed. Fixed by $Alisey
  • Rapidly clicking thumbs/emoticons from the sidebar caused crazy over-autosaving. Fixed by $Alisey
  • Selecting heading size and then typing did not work. Fixed by $Alisey
  • The embedded stash in sidebar was sometimes stealing keyboard events. Fixed by $inazar
  • There was a weird weird fade in and fade out for the "loading..." button in the sidebar. Fixed by $inazar

Your Feedback

New Thumbnails

Feedback regarding the new thumbnails was incredibly varied. With over 6,000 comments left on last week's Site Update, there were lots and lots of comments and conversations for us to read through. We've been actively collecting and analyzing the comments and following Journals posted about the topic. Some members were displeased with the new thumbnails, while others were happy, and there were many various opinions that ranged between these two.

DeviantART staff have been testing thumbnails since February. The new thumbnails have also been in Beta Testing for quite some time — one of the longest periods we've had a feature in Beta Testing. Once we released the second gridded option, we received a much more positive response from the community.

While we believe in the updates that were made, we have received a couple of valid complaints about the way certain thumbnails were presented. For example, we give thumbnails a lighter background when their proportions are too tall or too wide. This keeps the rows of deviations looking tidy by visually aligning them. Some members have complained about backgrounds being given to deviations who don't appear to need it. See below: 

Screen Shot 2012-08-30 at 5.41.14 PM by danlev

In response to this, we have adjusted the threshold for a thumbnail being given a background so that thumbs are only given the background when needed. We are working on a few other tweaks that will hopefully improve some of the different cases that have been brought up.

Although we are still gathering feedback and gauging responses, we would like to thank you all for your continued passion toward and interest in the site's function and appearance.

Other feedback included:
  • Users would like to mark notes as unread and have a notification still show in the top bar and Message Center. Suggested by *WhiteDiamondsLtd
  • Users would like an option to disable emoticons, when commenting. Suggested by =Zyruma 
  • Users would like a section in the artist's comments where they could specify the tools used to create the artwork. Suggested by ~OreoSmah162 


Sharing Your Art
DeviantART offers easy methods of sharing art on other social networks through the Share buttons on deviation pages. Do you share your art on other social networking sites? If so, which? Do you find it easy to share the artwork you've posted to deviantART elsewhere? Would you find it helpful if sharing your art on other sites could be done from the Submit page, or if it were more automatically pushed to your other social networks?

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ZtheSOI Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013
Can someone answer my question please? I clicked into one of my deviation's 'more like this' button, and it showed pictures completely unrelated. Why's it like that and how can I change it?
shrodu Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Is it possible to edit the "more like this" for our deviations? There are some results that I'm getting tired of seeing for most of my pictures (which are all towards the same pictures except for a select few)
Spielodia Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
I really dislike that this feature is on every deviation page! It looks misleading, like those images shown are made by the same person. This is specially bad if you use DA to show random visitors and other people not familiarized with DA. Sometimes people even think your favorites are actually works by you xD So this just makes more confusion! Please make it an option to disable the feature from showing others' works on the deviation page!
nime080 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I came here just to give the same feedback as yours, except that a better solution IMHO would be moving the MLT panel below the user's gallery images.
It's a pretty straightforward design matter: it's the user's image page, so info's hierarchy would rather be: A) image info, download, share, and such B) user info/gallery C) other infos, MLT, links unrelated to the image or user, etc. I don't want to look arrogant, I'm just pointing this out from my professional experience and I hope my suggestions will help Deviantart.
Spielodia Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
This would be better than what we have now, yes, but I think it would still be confusing. From a user pov. I think if anything it should be on the bottom/footer of the page like the channels etc, that are on a dark background, they look very separate from the rest of the page. Another solution would be to have a "by (name of artist)" on the bottom of each thumb, even if it looks cramped... meh.
To be honest I don't think putting even more stuff on a deviation page is a good idea in the first place, it looked a bit cramped already and this probably doesn't help the page load any faster either.

Still, I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who doesn't like the way it looks now.
hazyhills Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
I would like to add some positive feedback as well. The format change is when submitting a deviation, for the most part, very convenient and, while taking a second to get used to, is very appealing. That, along with the 'save & exit' feature, makes submissions easy, even though I had reservations about it at first.
hazyhills Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
I would like the option to turn off More Like This, as it has a tendency to only advertise a few of my pictures or advertise other artists that I have no interest in watching. Otherwise, I think it should be a minimized tab like it was before this week instead of taking up a large chunk of the page. That way, attention would not be drawn away from the deviation the viewer is watching. They can still choose to browse through the option, but it won't be so gaudy to look at.
GeorgeSellas Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Please give users the option to turn off the "More Like This" pane that shows up next to deviations. The random thumbnails (often times by other artists) right next to a deviation are very obtrusive and unsightly. It makes the page very cluttered looking.

The "More Like This" feature is something already available on the main page by hovering and clicking on the small blue "More Like This" bar, which is much less obtrusive than a giant pane of thumbnails. Please get rid of the "More Like This" pane or give us the option to turn it off.

It is also potentially confusing to viewers because it shows up above the "More From (insert deviant name)" area. At the very least the "More Like This" pane should be below this so users who want to stay on a particular artist's gallery don't accidentally shoot off onto another random artist's page unknowingly.
richfiles Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I just wish we could DISABLE things we don't use...

No offense, but DA gives me more spinning rainbow beachball of death on my ancient Mac now than it did a year ago...
Also, the location of the "More Like This" is VERY obtrusive. I don't like it near the favorites and download buttons.

Well... I also don't like it there. Further down would be better, and being able to turn it off would be best.
Kuzey3d Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012
Um..can we please have a 'not like this' feature to filter out the poser porn crap..for crying out loud
ThaleiaFantasy Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Student Filmographer
The larger size of the thumbnails is a plus, but the design is otherwise not my favourite...

Also, the three points in the end, "Other feedback included:", are issues I will most definitely second. The last two, especially, am I personally very interested in.
JesseCollie Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
... not quite understanding what this whole concept is right off the bat. from what it lookes like, is this essentially making a pandora-esque system in which art is assigned tags, which leads you to arts with similar tags?
hey-mikky Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey I was thinking that deviantart should probably create an app that would make it easier to browse through images on mobile devices, obviously it would probably be difficult to add images but its just a thought :)
What say you??
o0-kanra-0o Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i just know i cant stand the new thubnails :/ theyre huge and make the page load very slowly
charla316 Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2012
half the time in browse a drawing in question will load then a few minutes later when i go back to it , it wont load
reloading dont work the two way browse dont work loading a page does not work

no body cares!! ?
charla316 Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2012
make things work
baconworm Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012   Traditional Artist
I'd have to say that the comments stating that the thumb's 'were incredibly varied' was very misleading, akin to most US political discourse nowadays. I read every single comment on that journal, and the number of people upset with the new thumb system greatly outweighed those that were in favor of it. Yet you continue to force this upon us....disgusting....basically our feedback means nothing to you. I find this extremely upsetting, especially for those of us who are paying to have premium accounts.
crystal-studio Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012  Student General Artist
dA, my thumbnails still doesnt allow me to see anything.. its been two weeks or so and Im starting to get stressed about this, I cant see anything !!! [link]
IllustriousShades Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
I do have a complaint about the thumbs. As I was browsing stock, half the picture was cut off, and to see what was missing, I had to click on it to see what it was, while if it hadn't been cut off, I could've determined that the stock itself was worth looking at or not. I know it's petty, but I only have limited time to get through select peices of stock before life calls. Could you please put whatever your doing back to the way it was before? Wasting time, is not fun, not when I don't have the time to waste.
meegja Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, that's it: DA is finally giving real feedback on the huge thumbs and the huge thumbs are here to stay. No option on small or big, it will be huge thumbs and huge thumbs alone and that's the end of the discussion. Well, not really a discussion of course ... it's a 1 sided thing where the majority of the users here are getting a huge middle-finger from DA.
Thank you DA to completely ignore your users. The users that made you big and now you just set them aside.
Ofcourse DA could care less: people (like me) will leave DA after being members for a long time but who cares? There are enough people who will stay members so f*ck the majority of complaints.

Da, a strong believe in a change is okay. Kudos for trying (new) things, being it an original change or just a copy and paste change from other sites. But this forcing it upon everybody where the majority is asking for at least an option is making you act like complete assholes ... dictator-like assholes to be precise. I can not put it any other way, sorry. Because the reactions are strong on this issue and DA is just ignoring it, showing 100% disrespect for it's users. I will and can not be a member of a site which is showing this kind of disrespect and arrogance towards it's users.

jacij Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012   General Artist
Here we go finally some feedback on the horrible thumbs [link]
Basically tough luck, the staff like it this way so that's the way it is from now on and if your internet is too slow to cope or you're unable to view half the deviation thumbs out there as anything more than grey boxes we are apparently going to have to learn to live with it. It's a bit of a joke. Apparently they want to make it simpler so when bugs come up they can be fixed. This new "update" has CAUSED a whole lot of bugs that the original never had.
Sorry for the rant DA staff but have you actually listened to all the problems people are having?
(Today alone I've had a number of "grey box" thumbs and several error pages.)
Eemeling Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2012   Digital Artist
I can't buy prints because the address part doesn't let me use or in it...
lindaofcc Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
SarahTheMii Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Look here. You need to come to the conclusion that EVERYONE here HATES the new thumbnails!! (me included)
Benin6man Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
New thumbnail layout STILL SUCKS!!! :smoking:
Alexandros-Derveron Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am not entirely sure I want to know what you did: [link]

But for the love of all seven hells, fix it.
Britazzy Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dear DA staff,
XXArekushisuXX Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
All my deviations are all messed up now :I they look just like this [link]

Thanks Deviantart you just suck more and more..

Lol I don't even why I even bother saying anything.
Britazzy Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's happening the same with me :noes:
XXArekushisuXX Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
-.- Just utter crap.
TheArgoNinja Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I'm not the only one? oAo
XXArekushisuXX Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Half people can't even see any deviation's worst idea ever.
tf-regal Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
With the next site update, can you please directly address this, the problem that many members want to have a choice whether they have normal sized thumbnails or the new huge size? Don't leave everyone hanging for another week. If you are considering this, please tell us. If not, please explain why.
jacij Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012   General Artist
No they are not being changed back or an option given for normal sized thumbs- see [link]
CrystalSetsuna Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012
come on da, we're waiting for the option to switch between the OLD layout, which grid view does not even come close to replicating, and the new albeit for some/most members sucky layout.
jacij Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012   General Artist
Don't know why everyone (myself included) bothers to give feedback even when it IS asked for by DA. They don't seem to have any interest in listening to what their users are saying :(
meegja Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Seems that way :( They did revert the frames around the thumbs but the whole HUGE thumb issue is not mentioned once ... other then that "some users do not like the new thumbnails". DA is arrogant enough to translate the word "majority" into the word "some". This arrogance and utterly disrespect to the members made me decide to stop @ DA after 7 years ... sad but true :(
jacij Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012   General Artist
No apparently the DA staff believe strongly in the new thumbs so they wont be changed even though they are causing so many problems for people [link]
SinisterEternity Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2012
I completely agree...
EsaKris Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012   Digital Artist
It's almost two fucking weeks since the thumbnail update and still no option to turn them back to how they were.
Please humour me as to how many days "few" is because right now I have to borrow some of my neighbours wireless internet just so I can answer my messages because my dial-up internet won't load dA at all.
Fucking thanks dA for being such a stubborn ass.
MartinSilvertant Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
I'm actually glad people are still complaining about the thumbnails and the functionality/usability changes DA has been bringing forward recently. I believe this is the first time people have expressed their discontent so passionately. With the other updates it was a matter of getting used to it. In this case it goes against some basic principles of web design and a lot of people just can't use DA well anymore regardless of what their subjective statements might bring to the table. The recent changes are only partially a subjective matter. To a great extent it's objectively ruining people's experience with this website.

In conclusion, nice job to everyone for expressing the things which are very wrong with the new updates. I still don't quite understand why the DA team is being so stubborn or why it thought these changes were necessary in the first place but in any case I don't think they can ignore all the alarming comments.
Moonstone27 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012   General Artist
I got a question.. HOW long do we have to put up with these thumbnails? you guys said a few dayyss, well how long's this few days?
Katy-L-Wood Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm glad to see that you guys are taking all the member feedback about the thumbs to heart, and giving an obvious response that everyone can see!

I don't see the point in disabling emoticons. I also don't see the point in giving a special section for tools unless it becomes something we can search by. Otherwise it would just be pointless, since you can easily input your tools already.

When it comes to sharing my art, I share it on tumblr and twitter. It would be awesome if they were shared automatically when I uploaded stuff! And another thing I suggested once was that the tumblr share button becomes a reblog link after the first share. That way, when a new person shares the deviation to tumblr it's sharing the same file and it's easier for the artist to keep track of their work and see the attention it's getting.

Also, suggestion/question for the help desk when it comes to bugs. When you click to submit a bug you get the "directions" about turning off add-ons/beta testing before submitting your ticket. But even if you do this and tell the help desk people that you do this, they still ask you to do it again. It seems kind of pointless to have those instructions there if you're just going to ask us to do it again.
GrappleMace Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2012
No endless scrolling please. It basically shoves unpopular deviants further into the trash bin.
Pastelliliitu Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I can't use either, it just keeps loading stash/login/ page and I can't use anything.
Prue84 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012
Newest vs. popular.

I don't really remember before but the new way to choose when you search for something is unhandy. You have to wait the search to be launched - and the images loaded - to hover on the "popular" dropdown and wait for "newest" to load before switch from popular to Newest. And, since it's Popular on default, everytime I launch a search I have to make those steps.
Yesterday I was searching for stock wings and whenever I had to change a word in the search bar or change the category, it was back to square one: launch-load-hover-wait-choose-wait to reload.

Many like to have their search sorted by "popular" but many others like "newest". I don't want to see popular, I want to be able to sort from newest->older (it would be great to have the other way too, older->newest). So... can't we have a way to set how we want our search to work BEFORE launching it? Some kind of "search settings" a la Google would be great, so the site remembers our settings but, at least, a box to check before hitting the button would be great.
X-Spread-Wings-X Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree. This is really starting to become a headache for me.
PKStreet95 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012
I do enjoy the new site update, but have it so that the user can decide what view they'd like their portfolio/gallery to be seen in.

That way, people like DanielDGriffiths (person who commented below me) can have a presentable layout with the style they want.
CATSr2 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012
I can get into stash just fine. But it might have something to do with the fact that I haven't got anything there.
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